Dog Behavior Problem

Dane hopped the fence!!!! EZ Behavior To EXTINGUISH Or Put On Cue

Question:

<Snip a whole lot of fanatic vitriole> Good Grief! And I thought they had some major nutcases at rec.equestrian! At first I thought the "HOWE" person had created a stepford wife, but now I see s/he’s one and the same. PLONK! Susan

Response:

HOWEDY tracy,

> Bones wrote > Nope, can’t build the fence higher because it is chain > link and 500 feet ofit. If you know the size of a Dane, > you will realize that they will trample almost any shrub. > I need to train my dog to not jump over or even on the > fence. I don’t want to use an invisible fence because > Danes are really sensitive if you don’t know that already. > They may look tough but they take things to heart. My > dogs are very spoiled too, (also have a very small shih > tzu) and we don’t use physical discipline on them and > I hate to say it but they get away with a lot because we > are not consistent with our training. > Which is obviously part of the problem. But I don’t think > I know what to train him with anyway.

Neither do our dog lovers. Our experts haven’t got a clue except for to HURT the dog because THAT is their HUMAN NATURE. That’s HOWE COME they call Jerry’s 100% successfuls students liars, paid shills for Jerry, and animal fuckers. > Bones… > I don’t know

You don’t know squat, tracy. Your own dogs have OCD’s and one of them is being treated at the university behaviorist, and that’ll never work cause they’re treating the DOG’S behavior, not YOUR behavior towards the dog, the CAUSE of ALL your dog behavior problems. > quite what you expect from this group.

That’s REAL EZ tracy. The OP asked HOWE to teach his dog not to jump his fence. > You have a fence that your dog will jump over.

Like mine? Or like Misty’s? Misty don’t use no fence at all, and her dog won’t leave her yard, cause she LEARNED HOWE after you and your pals here LIED to her and told Misty not to believe Jerry and to killfile my information. That got her dog Peach DEAD. Now Misty KNOWS not to HURT her dog to train IT. > If you can’t raise it,

If the OP can’t get it up I suggest he’s got no choice but to train his dog. Besides, the fence as a barrier can make the dog aggressive, whereas the TRAINED dog will respect ITS boundaries and not be overstimulated by the fence so will be less aggressive and MOORE alert. Isn’t THAT a nice benefit for our protection dog lovers? > you CAN replace it with something

Called TRAINING. > higher that he can’t see through.

Or something IMPENETRABLE, like TRAINING, for example. > But that’s not cheap so you WON’T.

Training’s FREE and only takes a few minutes. > You CAN install an invisible fence,

That could make his dog aggressive and get IT DEAD, like "my golden retriever bit the ups driver," and "interested in hearing." > but you WON’T because you say your dog is sensitive.

Unlike yourself. You’re a liar and a dog abuser, tracy. > Maybe you don’t know about invisible fences,

Maybe you don’t know squat about training or you’d offer a METHOD to train the dog not to jump the fence. > but you don’t just put them up, put the collar on and let > the dog go –

Right. You got to HURT the dog and let IT know YOU are the Thug HURTING IT. > you have to invest a little time in training your dog so he will learn

That is is YOU who is hurtin IT. > to avoid getting a correction, but…

You mean to avoid getting HURT, kinda like the DMZ? > You WON’T correct your dog.

You mean he’s not eager to HURT his dog, but you and blankman and tara.green2 and the rest of our lying dog abusing Thugs will TRY to convince the OP that shocking his dog is acceptable to SAVE IT from harm and to keep you from EMBARRASSMENT. That IS the EPITOME of The SYNDROME. > It is impossible to positively train a dog *not* to do something.

It’s near impossible for our dog lovers to train any dog to do any thing, cause they’re lying dog abusing Thugs, not expert dog trainers. Expert dog trainers don’t NEED to HURT. > You can train them to do something that is > contrary to the behavior you want to stop,

Oh? You gonna teach the dog to stand there and jerk off as our professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer’s dog does when he gets stressed from being PUNISHED? > or you can condition them to avoid corrections

You mean condition the dog to avoid PAIN? You’re quite the genius! I didn’t know dogs don’t avoid PAIN at all costs…, tracy. > (consequences)

My science book tells me if you HURT a dog it will fear and hate and attack or withdraw from you, and perhaps develop OCD behaviors like excessive masturbation on your couch pillows as professor SCRUFF SHAKE’S little dog Maxi Pads does… or TURNS on them like your pal liea altshuller’s dog Cubbe or leah’s dog Madigan does to them. It’s all in the archives, People. > if they *do* the behavior you don’t want.

You mean if the dog does something that offends your human nature, and scares you or makes you feel out of control and scares and hurts your FEELINGS cause the dog EMBARRASSES you and TAUNTS your consience with fear and GUILT, the cause of your defective ego, inferiority complexes, and weak mind. That’s YOUR HUMAN NATURE compelling your to HURT and KILL and even to LIE about Jerry and call his 100% successful students liars, paid shills for Jerry and animal fuckers. > So, you CAN condition your dog not to jump,

By HURTING IT? > but you WON’T correct him.

But our dog lovers will TRY to CONvince the OP to HURT his dog as our pals enjoy. > So, since you WON’T correct him

You mean won’t HURT him… > and you WON’T raise or replace your fence,

There’s no need for the fence at all, if you ask my 100% successful students like Misty, for example. > your only options are to chain him up

Chaining the dog will make IT MOORE aggressive and maybe make IT MOORE aggressive on lead. > or keep him in the house. To AVOID a behavior problem you can’t train? > Period.

No. You and your pals are Lying Dog Abusing Thugs, tracy. > If I were in your shoes,

You’d be HURTIN the dog and then wonderin HOWE COME the behaviorists at the university can’t unravel IT’S behavior problems. > I’d replace the fence.

Sure! That’s on account of you’re a idiot, a liar, and a dog abuser. > Chain link is not an ideal dog fence –

ANY fence may cause a barrier frustration syndrome in SOME dogs. > the dog can see through it which can excite his > prey/play drive and give him an enormous motivation to jump it.

And that’s different than just HEARING and SMELLING the critter on the other side… > Neighbor kids (and stupid adults for that matter) can tease > your dog through the fence and make him aggressive.

Right, but hurting the dog yourself is gonna make IT friendly like Sampson was after steve walker got through HURTIN his DEAD dog. > They can feed him things that might make him sick.

Another excellent point. Only takes a few minutes to poison proof a dog. > Also, since your dog can see out of it, he can become > territorial over not just the area he occupies, but also > the area he sees,

That doesn’t fit, dog abuser. The dog is likely to be MOORE aggressive if he can hear but not see. > which can contribute to aggression as the result of guarding behavior.

Yeah. That’s HOWE COME we don’t confine dogs to avoid behavior problems, we address the issues and then there’s no need to confine or worry or HURT the dog. > I wouldn’t want to be your insurance agent.

You wouldn’t be able to get licensed, they don’t tolerate liars in the insurance business. > You have an accident waiting to happen.

That’s on account of nobody’s got no advice for our OP. > The only thing safe to do

Is HURT the dog… > (within your range of options) is > to either chain him or keep him in the house at all times.

That’s a flat out lie cause my students train their dogs in a few minutes not to jump fence or eat poison or molest other critters. > You chose the dog and you knew that a dane would get big.

Size doesn’t count. Take me for example. I’m only one little guy, and I’m stickin it to the entire industry 24/7 till I bring it to the world wide press and drop the hammer for the final death blow to our dog lovers and their vicious habits. > You either installed the fence or bought it with the house.

This isn’t a fence issue, this is a simple training problem like all the other training problems our dog lovers can’t handle without HURTING the goddamned dog and callin Jerry and his 100% successful students liars ONLY in order to DEFEND your alleged right to HURT and KILL your best dogs because you HURT them because of your defective fragile EGO, inferiority complexes and weak minds, and of course, for the MONEY. Like ed w of petloss dot CON, for example. He recommends koehler cause 10% of koehler trained dogs end up DEAD, like Robert Crim’s Wonder Dog Fritz. My methods would have turned aroun Fritz and woulda made IT work just like Robert’s Wits’ End Trained Dog. That’s HOWE COME our dog lovers TURNED on Robert, when he LEARNED he caused Fritz to go INSANE because of his traditional training methods. > One of the two came first and either your dog is too big > for the fence or the fence is too small for the dog.

So, you gonna HURT the dog? HOWE COME you don’t HURT the fence instead? HOWE COME you don’t HURT the neighbor’s dog like your pal lying lois did to her neighbors’ dog for coming on her property? > You have a responsibility as an owner to contain your dog properly.

You told him to HURT his dog or waste thousands of dollars in unnecessary construction to avoid a simple training problem my students would know HOWE to train after just a few minutes of study from their FREE copy of my FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com . You know, that’s the one our pals here like ed w of petloss dot CON likes to tell folks I’m SELLIN. > I hope you will do that.

I don’t think there’s any need to do nuthin moore than study your FREE copy of my FREE Wit’s End Dog Training Method manual available for FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com and invest the couple minutes it’ll take to properly handle and … read more »

Response:

HOWEDY susan,

> <Snip a whole lot of fanatic vitriole>

You mean EVIDENCE. > Good Grief! And I thought they had some major nutcases at > rec.equestrian!

Like Monty Roberts? His methods are in some ways identical to mine. > At first I thought the "HOWE" person had created a stepford > but now I see s/he’s one and the same.

I see you’ve been following my posts. > PLONK!

You all say that because Jerry EXPOSES your HUMAN NATURE. > Susan

You’re a liar and an animal abuser. THAT’S your HUMAN NATURE, as articulated in The SYNDROME. All animal behavior problems are a DIRECT RESULT of your inappropriate and ineffective handling and training techniques. Here’s iron clad EVIDENCE, and I’ll give you as much as you can take. That’s HOWE COME our dog lovers try to convince folks Jerry’s a con man and his students are paid shills for Jerry, sock puppets, liars, and animal fuckers:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> [...] > >Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news group, I can’t > >for the life of me understand why this many people are so dang blind > >or ignorant. You just keep plugging away at what you do, because > > you my friend are a life saver!!! > Okay, who the heck ARE you, really? > Who am I? My real name is posted. The story you have read is true. We > were at witts end, found Jerry’s web page by happenstance, wrote to > him almost exactly what you read, he gave me his sugestions, told me > what my results would be including a time line and, you know what? He > was and still is, right on the money. > I don’t care if he’s a warlock, a professor, disgrunted Entomologist, > or a man with a nitche that makes the sciences itchy, he saved the day > AND a dog’s life. > We were given suggestions from Medication, to a Behavioral Specialist. > I decided that instead of creating a Jerry Garcia or pay 125.00 dollars > an hour for my dog to lay on a couch to be freudiated, I decided Jerry > Howe’s method seemed to be more humane and sereine. > It worked, end of story. > A. Testa

Val writes Monday, 6/3/02 (original post of 5/31 below): Well, for what it’s worth, I am praising without physical contact and she does seem to listen better than when I would praise with it. I agree that it is a distraction. Anyway, no more aggressive behaviors from her since I started the Witts End. Nevyn writes:

Jerry I cannot even begin to tell you the success Ive had with your training manual! My two mutts have gone from out-of-control psychos to obedient well behaved companions within a matter of weeks! AND My friends have seen the success and have asked me to work on their dogs! I was working with a 5 month old Ridgeback female today and she was being an angel after like an hour of working with her! it is AMAZING!! I pity those fools who take their dogs to classes where the "Trainers" abuse their dogs! (do they have a degree? A masters? a Phd? by the way? NO they are average joes off the street who think they know how to train dogs!) Once again, Jerry, you are a genius! NEVYN and my Dogs, Rizzo and Midget, My Grandparents dogs, Dusty and Snoopy, and my friends pup, Jazz. Never give out your password or credit card number in an instant message conversation. Nevyn says: hello Jerry. Jerry says: HOWEDY Nevyn Nevyn says: How are you? Jerry says: sup? Nevyn says: Oh nothing Nevyn says: My dogs are alot better now! Jerry says: fine Jerry says: tell me Nevyn says: I can walk them on or off the leash and they don’t give a % about other dogs Jerry says: naah Nevyn says: I can let them inside and they wont eat the cats Jerry says: naah Nevyn says: Yup Jerry says: what did you do, buy a shock collar? Nevyn says: No Nevyn says: Praised them Jerry says: ahh! Jerry says: you think they’re 100% better Nevyn says: ‘cept they still bark at the neighbour but only coz he swears at them and pours water on them Nevyn says: nahh they still have stinky breath! Nevyn says: muahaha Jerry says: ok Jerry says: I’ll go for that Jerry says: it’ll take a couple more days to break the neighbor thing if you’re consistent Jerry says: then he won’t swear and throw water at them Nevyn says: yeah but he’s only out on the weekends Jerry says: but they’ll still have stinky breath Nevyn says: muahahaha Jerry says: you gonna write the group and tell them they’re suckin hind teat? Nevyn says: eh Nevyn says: nah Nevyn says: cant Nevyn says: my news server isn’t workin Nevyn says: how about u just screenshot or copy this chat and post it Jerry says: why not. Nevyn says: sorry been tryin all day to get on the news server Jerry says: you got anything you’d like to tell the dog lovers who would prefer to see you choke and shock and lock your dogs in a box? Jerry says: I guess you don’t want to tell them nuthin that they don’t already know, huh? Nevyn says: hah Nevyn says: tell them they’re fuckers who need to die Nevyn says: dogs aren’t for abusing they are for loving they love so much Jerry says: that’s HOWE COME they got me now Jerry says: howe much training time did it take for the two of ‘em? Nevyn says: pfftt Nevyn says: it didn’t even seem like training Nevyn says: its been 24 days since I got your manual Jerry says: pfffttt!!!! Jerry says: hhahahahaha Jerry says: have you got that feeling that they’re in tune with EVERYTHING you’re wanting them to do? Jerry says: I forgot what city you’re in. Jerry says: maybe if you’re near alphalpha sweeny you can swing by and LAUGH your ass off at him growling at his dogs??? Jerry says: BWWWHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Nevyn says: LOL Nevyn says: I’m in Perth, Australia! Nevyn says: and yes they do seem to be in tune Nevyn says: oh!! the other day my dogs went into submissive position when a tiny little toy poodle came up barking at them! !LOL Jerry says: EXCELLENT! Nevyn says: lol Jerry says: they knew they didn’t need to fight, cause everything was in your expert control. Keep up the good work. j;~) View this article only Hello I have two mungrel females; the breeds exactly are Blue Heeler (spots) x Kelpi (dominant genes) x American Pitbull (behavioural) x Pug (don’t laugh!). They are gentle loving dogs when I’m at home with them, and they are friendly with unknown people. They are sisters. One is obviously dominant over the other, and I don’t have a problem with that, however; Their behaviour is very odd. Some days they are very good whilst I’m walking them, some days they are not. They are 3 years old and have only been walking for about 12 months because my mom didn’t walk them and now I’m home so I walk them for about an hour and half every afternoon. I take them to the park where they chase birds and swim in the lake. This is my problem : The less-dominant dog viscously barks at every other dog we walk past; I have tried using a stick and giving her a tap when she does it, and treating her with treats when she doesn’t, using a choke chain, a muzzle and a thing that sprays stuff in her mouth when she barks. She won’t stop! Does anyone know how I can stop her? ] Also, the more-dominant dog seems to know this is WRONG, when the other dog barks, she doesn’t bark, but she nips at the other dog as if telling her to cut it out, and then the barking one attacks the more-dominant one and they fight on the leash… it is quite disturbing to the people walking past. And also the more-dominant one is okay around other dogs… SOMETIMES… sometimes she completely ignores them, and yet other times she will attack them, like yesterday. The less dominant one I must keep on a leash if a person brings there dog to the park. How do I stop them attacking other dogs? I have tried all the methods I have used above for 10 months every afternoon. Is it just a pac k-behaviour thing? It can really be quite embarrassing when your dogs attack some old lady’s or little girl’s dog. They are good dogs, when at home or when there are no other dogs around. Today there were hundreds of sparrows flying around the park and they were chasing them and jumping up trying to catch them for more than 90 minutes (They went straight to bed when I bought them home!). Can anyone help me? Email me at my emails address, Thanks, Nevyn Friday, 5/31/02: HOWEDY Valerie, > I recently adopted a female, spayed 3 1/2 yr old dalmatian from a no-kill > shelter.

Nice goin. > She spent 2 years in the shelter and naturally she has some > socialization issues to overcome.

Naaah not naturally, anyHOWE. Kenneling for a long time shouldn’t have problems associated with it if the facility was reasonable, and if they’re not killin dogs they couldn’t be as cruel as our dog lovers janet boss john richardson and mikey ball who gladly help dogs DIE. > My problem is I am not quite sure HOW to tackle these issues. . .

Don’t worry about it! I got all the answers and none of the calories. All ya got to do is agree to do anything Jerry sez and you get the aluminum funnel hat, membership card, secret password, secret decoder ring, secret fan club privilidges, secret FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual, secret FREE Wits’ End Dog Training … read more »